Our #icebucketchallenge response to @KiboMidnightOil

Midnight Oil Coffee House nominated us for the #icebucketchallenge. It took us a bit more than 24 hours but here is our response! (For the record I did not make the challenge, that came straight from our friends over at Midnight Oil! – Ben)

We think that the #icebucketchallenge is a fun way to raise money and awareness for a good cause, finding a cure for ALS or any other disease is a good thing. It also resulted in some pretty funny videos! We did not really think it was ok for us to dump water on the ground for our version. We work in a country where lots of people don’t have access to clean water, cold or otherwise. The day that we were challenged the municipal water supply in Jinja broke down, so people in town did not have water at all.

It is our true hope that everybody who participated in the #icebucketchallenge will take the next step in a generous life. Find a problem in your community and start working with people to solve it. Be hands on and get a little dirty. And find a big world wide issue that you can learn about and really understand. Advocate for that issue, give money, and educate those around you. So, have fun with the cold water, but don’t neglect a generous and thoughtful life the rest of the year.

The #icebucketchallenge has probably run its course. Most of the people who are going to do it have, and there are just a few stragglers like ourselves, left. But we do hope that it can have lasting impact in your life by causing you to think about how we give of our time, money, talents, and influence. There are a lot of people who have written and thought about the #icebucketchallenge. We encourage you to do a bit of reading and consider the implications of the #icebucketchallenge. Here are a few places to start:

A few articles to consider:

#IceBucket Evolution: A Challenge That’s Necessary—NOT Narcissistic

Why I’m not doing the #icebucketchallenge or donating for ALS

Finally, Matt Damon did an #icebucketchallenge that you have to respect:

Like Matt Damon mentioned, for clean water systems to work good sanitation systems must be in place also. He illustrated this nicely.

Clean Water and Dirty Containers

Recently I saw a picture somebody had posted on Instagram of a jerrycan being filled from a well. Here is the conversation below the picture:

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The question “Only curious, doesn’t the container look dirty.” is an insightful one. It is true that the water going into the container must be clean. But, if the container is dirty the water becomes contaminated also. They both count equally. You cannot have clean water unless the water itself is clean and the container is clean. I talked a bit about why this is true in an earlier post called Keeping Water Clean if you are interested in details.

 

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When looking at pictures of jerrycans being filled to keep a few things in mind: These can are used a lot, multiple times a day. They are often strapped to bikes or stacked on trucks. Sometimes they are accidentally dropped. They are well used! Often the scratches on the outside are filled with dust which is really hard to scrub out. It would be great if every jerrycan was shinny and new, but it is not really practical. As long as the inside is washed out and the mouth is as clean as possible contamination will be kept to a minimum.

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Just keeping the jerrycans clean is only part of the whole task of clean water. For example if dishes are dried on the ground there is a high risk of them getting dirty. A drying rack helps eliminate this contamination. The drying rack below is a great example.

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Of course hand washing is also critical in keeping water clean. Dirty hands can contaminate water just as quickly as dirty containers or dishes. Having soap and water near latrines and kitchens make it easy for hands to be washed at the point of contamination.

For more info about how Kibo Group works for clean water that lasts check out the Water Source project and CLTS. More importantly keep asking good questions about the things you see us and other development organizations do.

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Values: Going Slow

Sometimes when faced with a problem or task there is a tendency to rush through it. We want to find the quickest way to get something done. Other times we may suffer from over analyzing. We spend so much time gathering information or trying to understand a situation that nothing ever changes. Kibo Group is not immune to these two extremes of rushing or over analyzing. If we can avoid the extremes and see value in going slow and working efficiently, great things happen.

So far in our series on things Kibo Group values we have talked about interfaith partners, celebration, and financial stewardship. This time we want to reflect a bit on going slow. It is easy to think that going slow is the same thing as inefficient, or even lazy. We want to avoid being lazy, but we don’t want to be so focused on doing a task efficiently that we find out our goal was wrong.

issue7_sidebar2Abraham Mulongo is in charge of the Mvule Project. This project uses planting trees and raising goats to help people learn to trust each other and work together. This means that conflict is an important part of the process. Conflict cannot be rushed. Abraham says that “going slow gives time for people to think, and it removes the blame.” If people just react they end up “saying you have done this so go away, or you have done that so I am done with you. But if we go slow when tackling problems it lets people understand first.” If somebody is kicked out of a group because of conflict then we have missed our goal. It may take weeks or even months, but if people take the time to understand each other and resolve their conflict they are taking steps toward a healthy community, which is much more important than how quickly trees are planted.

We want all of our projects to be effective and to use our resources efficiently. We also want our projects to truly help people by solving real underlying problems in ways that give people power and dignity. Perhaps Abraham puts it best: “If Jesus was here, what would we say or do? That takes some time to think about, how would Jesus respond to such situations. I want to respond as Jesus would.”

Taking our time to understand other people before responding to a situation or problem is good advice no matter what country you live in.

Project Update: Water Rehabilitation

issue7_sidebarThe Water Rehabilitation project works with government offices and communities to repair existing wells, and it is not hard to find work to do! In Busia District there are 36 boreholes that do not work. This is an overwhelming number. The local government has money and capacity to fix some, but not all, of the wells. Alex and Stephen recently had several meetings with the Water Engineer and other officials in the district to discuss how Kibo can help increase the number of working wells.

The meetings resulted in a partnership that lets Kibo Group focus on the lower cost repairs and the district focus on the more expensive repairs. Kibo will start on a list of 15 wells and the district will work in the remaining villages.

Water Rehabilitation staff will travel to each village and work with community leaders to come up with a plan for fixing the well. Typically this will mean establishing a Water User Committee to collect funds from people who use the well. These funds will be used to pay for a portion of the the repair.

As we work in these communities one of our goals will be to ensure the wells will not fall into disrepair again. Very few boreholes in this district were built with stainless steel pipes. Switching to stainless will be a key to long lasting water access. This will cost more, but is important for longevity. Along with the technical aspects we hope each village establishes a commitment to clean water. This usually means a trusted group of people who will take care of the well, collect money, and work with hand pump mechanics to repair worn parts.

Take Action

We added a section to our website called Take Action. We will keep this page updated with ways you can support Kibo Group. Check the page out on the website at www.kibogroup.org/take-action. Here are a few things you can do now:

Shop at Amazon.com

You can support Kibo by buying stuff. Just set up an Amazon Smile account using this link:  http://smile.amazon.com/ch/74-3097948 The price you pay will not change, but Kibo will get a percentage of each purchase.

Listen to Music

Check out Four West on their Facbook page. If you buy a CD from them, Kibo gets a percentage of the sale price, and even better you get some great music.

Read a Book

Check out The Change Moment by Jerry Morgan. Jerry is a friend of Kibo and he donates a percentage of each book sale to Kibo. Find his blog at jerrymorgan.wordpress.com.

Donate

If you would like to support Kibo financially just head over to www.kibogroup.org/give

Tell A Friend

The more people that know about Kibo Group the better. Tell a friend about us!

Big Issues

Sometimes we notice an issue in the news or on social media that we think is interesting, or that people need to think about. We want to offer a few links that can give you a starting place for more research. Up this time: US Food Aid

The United States contributes more food to worldwide anti-hunger campaigns than any other country. There has been a rising debate the last several years about the efficiency of these programs and ways to reform them. If you are interested in how the United States distributes food around the world and possible reforms here are a few articles to check out:

We think there is real room to evaluate the effectiveness of any aid or development program. The debate over food aid reform is a great example of how the emotions, interests and motives around helping people are very complex for all of us.

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Kibo Group Reports for April and May

April is planting season so it was a particularly busy month for Mvule Project staff. They delivered seedlings to 24 villages for planting! Each of these communities are investing in their future and learning to work together to accomplish great things in their village. For a full report of Kibo Group activities in April just download the PDF for April.

During May the Water Rehabilitation staff solidified a partnership with Busia District. The district has 36 boreholes that need to be repaired, which is an overwhelming number. Kibo Group has agreed to work on a list of 15 specific boreholes so the district government can dedicate resources to the remaining 21. For details on Water Rehabilitation and other project activities in May download the PDF for May.

Sometimes the work we do in Uganda has results that are easy to see, like when a new well is drilled. But more often there are small conversations and events that lead to change. For example, recently Ida went to Kyani Village to resolve a conflict between two couples. A lady had left her current husband to go back to her first husband. This left her current husband bitter. They realized their mistakes and asked for forgiveness. It is hard to know what will happen in this situation, but it is a great example of the way Ida is part of people’s lives and is able to help people through hard situations. These small conversations add up, and over time there is change in a community.

Reflections from Rwanda

Recently students from the Pepperdine University East Africa Summer Program were in Jinja working with Kibo Group. As part of their time in East Africa they visited Rwanda along with Henry Oyier who is the Kibo Group Country Director in Uganda. Henry had a few reflections on his time in Rwanda we wanted to share. -Ben

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Our week long trip to Rwanda ended on a very high note on safari and just a time to reflect a little bit on the week itself, and a trip as a whole for the students.

Today we have a “surprise” public holiday… Lenny and I didn’t know it was Martyrs’ Day, until last night, but I’m not complaining as I need to catch up with Kibo stuff from last week when I was in Rwanda.

While we honor the Martyrs who died in Uganda several years ago for the sake of Christ, we also had an opportunity last week to visit the Genocide Museum and two memorial sites (church buildings) in Kigali to see how evil our world can be sometime. I must say that the forgiveness that we saw on videos and from stories we heard about the victims were so powerful.

It was a very humbling experience for us, in fact I want to learn more about forgiveness, we watched a video of victims going back to the people who killed their family members, they listened to them narrate the whole ordeal, then they would later shake their hands and forgive them. If this is done genuinely, God is good, the power of forgiveness is unbelievable, I cannot even imagine being the victim.

While this is a very important part of the Rwandan history, I think the world can learn from it but not just stop at that.

We also saw a clean city, secure streets, high rise buildings, good infrastructure, street lights are actually working downtown (cars actually stop on the red light), Even boda boda drivers and the passenger put on helmets, Everyone talked of good security in their neighborhoods.

We attended a local church next to “Peace House” where 14 of us spent the nights, they sang hymns every evening that were very peaceful, we visited this place to find God’s peace at the end of the day of despair. There is still hope in the church in Rwanda. We also saw lots of big businesses premises in different corners of Kigali.

I think as much as Rwanda is being associated with the Genocide, the economic in the last 10 years is probably worth exploring in the future trips, I think most African countries if not most countries in the world can learn from Rwanda too in my opinion.

Pray for us here as we work sometimes with people who have experienced brokenness, that we can support one another, pray even for Kibo staff to be strong, God to guide us in everything we do.

We are thankful for you guys for all you do in the States side to tell stories of how our lives and the lives of people we work with are changing everyday, we are also thankful as you tirelessly give funds for Kibo to continue serving the people here in Uganda. We are blessed to be part of their stories.

Peace and Joy!

Have a good week, see some safari pictures below.

Henry

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Why We Celebrate and Upcoming Events

We think that celebrations are really important, so many of our projects end with a celebration. An entire community gathers together to reflect on the hard work that has been done planting trees, building latrines and planning for the future. There are songs, speeches, skits, food, a band and a lot of dancing! If you have never been to a celebration in Uganda check out this video of a celebration in Bubugo Village:

We have lots of reasons to celebrate! Twenty years ago a group of missionaries moved to Jinja, Uganda and started meeting many of the people who make up Kibo’s staff today. Ten years later they founded Kibo Group. We are pretty excited to get to celebrate 10 years of working in Uganda as Kibo Group.

Abraham and Ida, who are both part of Kibo’s staff in Uganda have been traveling around the United States and the work they do is worth celebrating! Ida manages our Women’s Empowerment Program and Abraham coordinates The Mvule Project.

With so much to celebrate we decided to have our first ever Partnership Dinner in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Sharing a meal with 200 of Kibo’s supporters and hearing Ida tell about the work she does was a true party, we even ended with dancing! We could not find a Ugandan band to come play for us, but Got It Covered did a great job filling in.

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You may be wondering why we have dedicated an entire newsletter to talking about recent celebrations. There is a simple reason really: it’s hard to celebrate alone. The work that we do in Uganda is about people who live in a village in Uganda, Kibo staff, and Kibo supporters (that’s you!) all coming together to accomplish something that none of us can do on our own. And sometimes its good to pause and say thank you to everybody who is part of this adventure. Even if you did not make it to the dinner in Tulsa we want to say thanks for being a part of Kibo and making the work we do possible. So…Thank You for being part of Kibo!

We have to give a really big thank you to all the organizations that sponsored the Partnership Dinner: Strength of Mind Behavioral Health, Air Hygiene, Tulsa Christian Foundation, Continuous Improvement Solutions, Memorial Drive Church of Christ and Garnett Church of Christ.

There is one more big opportunity to get together coming up. If you are going to the Pepperdine Lectures in California this year, we want to have dinner with you! We will be having a dinner on April 30th starting at 4:30 (come and go as you wish) in the Faculty Dinning Room. Find more info on the Facebook event and let us know if you will be coming. Or, check out the conference schedule for more details.

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Financial Stewardship

We really like talking about the good things that happen in Uganda: wells that are working, women that are learning life skills, and villages that are developing healthy sanitation habits. These are great things to talk about! But there is so much more that has to happen behind the scenes to make these projects possible. One, which seems particularly relevant to this edition of the newsletter, is managing our finances.

We take the responsibility of managing money entrusted to us very seriously. We want to ensure it is spent appropriately, that our projects are effective, and that Kibo has the resources needed to be healthy over the long term. Therefore, many people are involved in developing our budget and overseeing our finances. On a basic level Bobby Garner, who is the Country Director in Uganda, works with Kibo staff in Jinja to set a budget each year. This process is overseen by our Executive Director Larry Norman and approved by the board of directors. During the year, money is moved from our bank accounts in the United States to Ugandan banks to cover approved expenses based on requests for money. This money is then spent, receipts turned in, and reports generated to ensure that money is spent properly.

Kibo Group’s accountants Justine and Samantha (Sam) are critical in ensuring that this process runs smoothly on a day-to-day basis. Justine’s office is in Jinja, Uganda at the Source Cafe, while Sam lives and works in Rochester, Michigan. Justine works to track expenses incurred during the course of doing our work in Uganda, making sure we stay within budget, and compiling requests for funds each month. Sam maintains detailed records on incoming donations, monitors expenses to budget, prepares consolidated financial statements, and completes all required government filings. They both work together to keep everything in sync, check each other’s work, and make sure that money is being used to reach our objectives and goals.

Sometimes there are obstacles: two countries, two languages, two currencies, two sets of accounting laws and best practices, compounded by a 8-hour time difference! Sam and Justine both agree that the occasional frustrations of a delayed wire transfer or late night email are worth it. As you can see, tracking our money is critical to the health and success of Kibo Group, and is a great opportunity for all of us to learn from each other.

We have a crazy goal and we need your help!

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Dear Kibo Family,

We recently mailed our annual report to Kibo Group’s friends and supporters. If you did not receive a copy, let us know and we’ll send you one. The most important page in this year’s annual report is near the back and features pictures of the Kibo Group staff in Jinja, Uganda. It may be tempting to think of these staff members simply as paid employees of Kibo Group, but they truly are more than that. In a very real sense, they are Kibo Group. In their jobs, they design, run and manage all our projects with skills, knowledge and insight that no Westerner can ever have. Every member of Kibo Group is a friend, partner and collaborator in the fight against poverty in East Africa.

All of us are learning together, and there have been exciting lessons to learn over the years! One important skill we have been focusing on is listening to the voices of our partners in rural communities. By listening better to our partners, we are better able to understand and respond appropriately. As a group, our effectiveness has increased in large part as we recognize the abilities and ideas of our partnering communities. This leads to more communities desiring partnership on a regional and national scale. As a result, we have produced a plan for the coming year that is our most extensive yet. Here are a few highlights we are looking forward to this year:

  • We are ramping up regional women’s groups to offer more health and personal transformation opportunities than ever before.
  • Our stove program is embarking on a higher-level government partnership, creating an opportunity for drastically reducing child burns in the region.
  • The CLTS (Community-Led Total Sanitation) program will move from a pilot program into a larger government partnership, allowing more communities to make great strides in community-wide hygiene and sanitation.
  • Our new regional partnerships also mean we will dig more wells than ever before and facilitate more well repairs than we’ve completed in all other years combined.

Our plans require an aggressive budget, our largest to date, and it cannot happen without your support. We have set a goal to raise $150,000 by December 31, 2013. While that is an ambitious goal, we have an amazing opportunity to achieve it. Three donors have challenged us with a pledge of 40% of this goal. That’s $60,000 to get us started! Your generous gift will allow Kibo to keep saying “yes” to ongoing opportunities to improve the lives of people in East Africa.

We need your help to reach this goal! We need as many people as possible to partner with us, and you can help spread the word. If you have friends or family who are not donors to Kibo, this is a great opportunity to introduce them to our work. If you are a monthly donor, please consider increasing your donation or making an additional one-time donation. If you have not donated to Kibo recently, please consider a one-time gift. You can support the work of Kibo Group in East Africa by submitting your donation at www.kibogroup.org/give. Please help us reach our goal of $150,000 by December 31, 2013.

We are thankful for the support you have given us over the years, and we are excited to see how God will continue to work through all of us to fight poverty in East Africa. We hope you have a very Merry Christmas, and a blessed new year!

 

Clint Davis, President

Larry Norman,  Executive Director

Bobby Garner, Country Director

The Water Source Process

Bubugo_drillingBefore a well is dug in a village we spend a lot of time working with the community to help them prepare to take care of the well for years to come. There are two big areas we focus on. First, a Home Improvement Campaign establishes systems for keeping the water from the well clean. Second, a Water User Committee is established which ensures for the future upkeep of the well.

This is a long process! We started working in Bubugo village back in August are are working right now to finish up the actual well. Every village is different and are on different schedules, this is just one example of the process we work through with a community.

Aug 12, 2013

Kibo staff Bwana and Kibuuka went to Bubugo for the first time to visit the community and see the condition of their living environment and assess the need for a borehole in the area. They introduced the Water Source project and Kibo Group to the community, along with explaining the Water Source project. The community was quite excited to have Kibo working in their village.

Aug 16, 2013

Kibo staff asked the community to select two committees to work with the Water Source project in the village. One of the committees is in charge of the Home Improvement Campaign. The other committee is called the Water User Committee and will be a long standing committee in charge of the borehole once it is drilled as well as being responsible for the borehole account.

Aug 19, 2013

The two committees started their training. The Home Improvement Campaign Committee, and the Water User Committee began to learn what their responsibilities will be for the project.

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Aug 23, 2013

Kibo staff visited the village to check on the Home Improvement Campaign Progress. They inspected 16 homes during their visit. The community members were busy making drying racks, rubbish pits, digging pit latrines, and maintaining their homes.

Aug 28, 2013

On this visit Kibo staff inspected 52 homes during a visit to the village. They saw that the people in Bubugo are serious about completing their Home Improvement Campaign and were busy digging pit latrines, drying racks, and rubbish pits.

Sept 4

A visit was made to the village to follow-up on their Home Improvement Campaign and measure their progress towards their sanitation goals. 21 homes were visited. This village seems to be working towards their goals, many of the members were digging pit latrines, constructing drying racks, and forming rubbish pits.

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Sept 11

The village is shining as they progress through their Home Improvement Campaign at a steady pace that is showing improvements all over the village. Bwana observed that most of the village members were working in some way shape or form towards their HIC goals. There are members who still need encouragement to continue with the program.

Sept 18

Bwana and Kibuuka were in Bubugo to follow-up on their Home Improvement Campaign. They were able to visit 32 homes during their visit. This village has been working quickly to achieve their Home Improvement Goals. Each time Bwana and Kibuuka are in Bubugo they notice the change that has happened since their previous visit. Nobody is ashamed of their home, most of the village members are excited to show Bwana the work they have completed. The excitement in this village about their higher level of sanitation and hygiene is remarkable.

Sept 25

During this visit 16 homes were inspected. The community continues to excel in their work towards a clean and healthy community. Bwana was also able to demonstrate a hand washing facility to a widowed elderly woman in the village who was receptive to the idea.

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Oct 2

Bwana and Kibuuka were in Bubugo to have a meeting with the community to see how much time they needed to complete their Home Improvement Campaign. There were 63 members present for their visit. The group of community members participating in the project committed to finishing their work within 2 weeks. There are only a few community members who have not finished their work, the rest of the community must pull together to encourage and help them finish.

Oct 9

Bwana and Kibuuka were in Bubugo to show the Experience Africa group of visitors what the Water Source project is doing there. When the village members saw that the group of white men had come to their village they all came to greet them. They conversed with the Americans about how the USA is and what they thought of their village. After they were greeted by the entire community Bwana and Kibuuka showed the visitors their work in the village; latrines, bathing shelters, drying racks and rubbish pits.

Oct 16

Bwana and Kibuuka were in Bubugo to check on their Home Improvement Campaign. They were able to visit 17 homes during their visit.

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Oct 23

Bwana and Kibuuka were in Bubugo to begin grading the village on their Home Improvement Campaign. They visited and graded 68 homes during their visit. The LC1 (a local political official), and a Health Assistant were also present during the grading session. This grading session was a surprise to the community and only the Health Assistant knew that it was going to happen. Some of the village members had not finished their work and were instructed to finish before Bwana came back to do his final grading.

October 27-29

DRACO began drilling the water well. The drillers believe they have hit a large amount of water below a very thick (100+ feet) layer of rock. The owner of the land provided a land agreement, giving the land to the community. Pump installation will begin as soon as the borehole is complete.

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Introducing Larry Norman!

 

The Kibo Group Board of Directors is excited to announce the hiring of Larry Norman as our Executive Director!

 

The growth of Kibo Group demands the services of a highly experienced management professional who has a deep passion for the work of Kibo Group. God has provided Larry as the ideal fit at just the right time. Larry has great depth of experience in the business, education and non-profit world and will oversee our administrative personnel and functions in the United States. Consistent with our mission statement, Larry will keep a strong connection with our African colleagues by visiting our work in Africa each year and through weekly conference calls. Larry will also work closely with our African colleagues in creating a vision for new development initiatives as well as scaling ongoing initiatives. This work will integrate and unify approaches for holistic community development in sub-Saharan Africa who face the tremendous challenges of extreme poverty.

 

Larry will lead Kibo Group from our office in Rochester, Michigan while he continues to manage our vibrant Kibo Corner coffee shop located at Rochester College.

 

Larry Norman (on the right) presets the first check from Kibo Corner which supports Kibo Group's work.

Larry Norman (on the right) presets the first check from Kibo Corner which supports Kibo Group’s work.

Larry was born and raised in Southeast Missouri. He worked in several industries, including 20 years in various positions with the St. Paul Insurance Companies. During that time he earned his MBA. In 1999 Larry came to Rochester College as the VP of Enrollment Services, and has worked there in various capacities until fall of 2011, which is when he became heavily involved in Kibo Group.

In 2010 Larry’s wife, Kay, went on a trip to Malawi with an organization called “Little Dresses for Africa.” When she returned they started talking about the possibility of being involved in a ministry focused on Africa, and decided to talk to John Barton (who is on Kibo’s board and past missionary to Uganda) about Kibo Group.

After they talked to John they decided that they had to honor their “show me state” heritage and go see Kibo’s work for themselves! Larry reflected on that trip by saying “While we didn’t get sick, we were both ‘infected.’ The biggest factor was not ‘what’ Kibo was doing, but ‘how’ they were doing it. We loved the relational and sustainable aspect of the Kibo approach. I came back wanting to do something to help fund the organization and my love for coffee led me to start a little coffee shop called Kibo Corner on the Rochester College campus.”

It was the beginning of a great relationship! Larry and Kay have returned to Jinja several times, and the Kibo Corner coffee shop is a really effective way for us to connect with college students, and earn some money to support projects in Jinja at the same time.

In early 2013 Clint Davis, the president of the Kibo Board asked Larry to come on as the Executive Director. Larry’s first reaction was, admittedly, “not a chance! I just semi-retired again and I don’t want to get back in the fire.” But God had other plans and after some conversation and prayer, Larry accepted the Kibo position and resigning the rest of his college position.

We are really excited to have Larry as a part of Kibo. As we continue grow and increase our impact in Uganda building a team of the right people is one of the most important tasks we have, and Larry is a key part of that growth.